you should not tile direct onto a chipboard floor as the tiles will not stay put for to long, you will need to either get some 12mm marine ply and screw down every 200mm OR you get a hardy backer board 6mm and a flexible tile adhesive screed the floor with the tile adhesive then put the hardy backer board on top of it. Use 3. The floors are moisture resistant tongue & groove chipboard and after having researched on this forum and others I know i should not be tiling straight onto. I've jot a decent jigsaw, but at 2>3mm I imagine the blade is just going to. all carpets and flooring removed to expose chipboard floor which about 15 months ago got several coats of pva glue to see if this would solve the musty smell which it did. If however the rip ended up at 100mm for example, it would. By where the sink was there has Obviously been a leak over the years which Has made the chipboard like a sponge! I am going to cut this out with a circular saw set to the depth of the boards and replace but not sure of how far I need to go. Andrew Morris Member. One Size. take up floor. The room used to be divided in two but we have opened it up into one big room. You don't need any noggins on the long joints, but where the ends of boards meet in a gap between joists it's best to put a noggin to support the joint. I've read many conflicting ways of laying engineered oak onto chipboard. 6mm (but usually more like 5. Water-Based Adhesive. The depth seems to be around 22mm. Corrosion-Resistant. Hence creating an airtight space. only a few masters left. 22mm Flooring Chipboard 8x2. I have contacted a few fitters two of which have got back to me. I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. Small Head Fixes Flush for an Almost Hidden Finish. Cut along the nail line with a circular saw set at the same depth as the chipfloor. nigel Guest. Soudal LVT, PVC & Vinyl Flooring Adhesive 5kg (661KV) (1) compare. bloop the gasman New Member. 99 Inc Vat. if it is "flooring grade chipboard", then you can tile direct on to it. use 18mm ply or 22mm chipboard, support all edges and use tongue and groove for the strongest floor, glueing all joints. #4. Requires no pilot hole or pre-drilling. Tom40 said: ↑. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > chipboard floating floor. Joist diameter and span under wall is 40mm x 170mm , 450mm centres, the span of joists is 2. Steviejoiner74 New Member. I'm installing some chipboard flooring however my joist centres are 370mm (not 400mm) so I'm having to do a lot more cuts. This is way more than the 150mm minimum so you are OK to start laying. £122. pci nanolight will stick direct to chipboard without. You don’t nail anything in a floating floor as you have been advised before the Chipboard sits independently from the insulation no glue or nails else your floor will expand and you have issues. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Electricians' Talk > Lifting Chipboard Floors. 9/5. It's a short piece of usually 1 1/2"or 2" thickness timber cut and fixed to provide stiffening, Fixing points, reinforcement, strength, support etc. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard T&G flooring removal around existing pipes. can't say I have ever come across any flooring that has had adhesive onto joists ,chipboard ,wood,or ply. Delivery. VAT. "dont forget to switch your heating off as the glue will go off too quick". traditionally you would only use white glue for gluing these boards togehter,grip fill is too thick and silicone is definately not suitable!gun nailing is ideal as well as the nails are ribbed and will not allow movement. The floorboards aren't too bad, and I figure hammering them down should keep and un-evenness/movement to an absolute minimum. Laying a floor? Using Chipboard flooring panels? Take a look at how to use our CaberFix D4 glue in conjunction with CaberDek panels. Saving energy at home. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Thread Void between floor at new extension. just pumps Screwfix Select. This is a job for a circular saw. actually sell chipboard flooring bonded to there insulation. Hello folks, I’m just about to tile the floor to pretty much the entire ground floor of my house, about 47 square metres. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by hamster, Jun 28, 2004. As for fixing boards down it's the same again. Leave it to dry overnight and then use a floor scraper to take off the mess you've left. Estwing used to make a good one, very ridged and strong and will take lots of abuse. I can see where some have been replaced historically, they just used what looks like pine and I guess cut it to size. Bodgets suggestion seems the easier solution. 99 Inc Vat. (You may need to cut away some of the insulation to make room for the wood. ElecCEng Screwfix Select. Followed by vinyl. yep the old ways have nearly gone. (36 products) Primer paint is required as an undercoat before applying the upper layers to any surface. . Hi Chippies, Have had a new 18mm T&G CHipboard floorboards (2400x600mm) laid over a fairly large area in a project. Redscyth and longboat like this. com. My question is whether ot not it is necessary to have the ends/joints supported by joists. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to a certain. Chipboard floor / soundproofing advice. 2) do the same as 1) but use biscuit joints instead (probably less strong by quite some margin. Screwfix Community Forum. is she the queen of the screwfix trade counter , she doesn't seem that nice , might be wrong edmund, Aug 30, 2012 #10. There is 1 row of strutting at the center of the span. 85 per square metre. If you're up in Scotland they call them dwangs. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard Flooring. Product Width. Home Farm, Sep 14, 2006. Erbauer Wood Cutter 111mm (80049) Erbauer Wood Cutter 111mm. And then new flooring. Delivery. Hi, i have a job to do it was water damage in a old upstairs flat which has ruined the floors, The floor is made up of chipboard flooring, a fire board of some kind, a rockwool type insulation under that hard tell exactly as what i have pulled up is just mush and under all that is a dpc and the original floorboards underneath which are fineBased on that theory, what's the difference to having a tiled floor then? If waters getting through then the problem isn't the subfloor, just make sure that it's in good solid nick before you lay over the top. Blocks stubborn and persistent stains including water stains, marker pens and more. Then if you have a bit of movement on the pipes you may have. It appears that there was a substance between them but this just chips away now, the apartment block was built about 12 years ago. Just screw any creaky/loose floorboards down, if any are badly damaged, replace them. Think the best thing now, is to over-board it, lapping joints, with 12mm ply, fixed down into the boards with 30mm screws (inclue some 50mm screws into the joists if you know where they are and you are satisfied no cables or pipes run there. Measure the length of the room to determine how many rows there will be. I live in a new-build, so the chipboard sounds the same as your newly laid. ) Then put your replaced board on the wood and screw down. Fill gaps and blemishes in wood. For use with high density fibre boards. Shim Wedge Strips. The tiles are 200 x 200mm. Screw down at the recommended spacings. £29. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Lowvolts. It becomes flakey past the outer layer and would be a rough finish. Look for key features such as movement type, brake type and strength to find the. The laminate floor comes with its own underlay. £14. Manthorpe GL260 Push-Up Loft Access Door White 562mm x 562mm (61794) (51) compare. 5. The floors have been in place for a few months, though since laying have been subjected to some messy plasterers (and associated plaster and water spillages) and some effect from heating (which has been on. 8"x2" 2400x600x22mm . Returns Policy. 40° Thread for Secure Fixing & High Pull-Out Resistance. sinewave Screwfix Select. Yes, he tiled it straight onto chipboard with flexi adhesive. Currently in Stock. 1) rout a slot along the cut edge (s) and glue in a strip of ply to act as a tongue, then rout a corresponding slot lengthwise along the board to fit at 90 degrees after having cut off the profile that it comes with. Divide that by 600mm and you will have 6. if the subfloor is sound, lay 4mm ply over it with 1". The last board will be 600mm x 0. You don't need any noggins on the long joints, but where the ends of boards meet in a gap between joists it's best to put a noggin to support the joint. Flexible, solvent-free sealant and gap-filler. I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. My issue is that I've just realised after reading online that I have tiled directly onto chipboard that was originally down on the floor. #3. You must leave at least 50mm, preferably 100mm or more of clearance between the insulation and the board and the eaves and ensure the soffits allow air flow through them. Click & Collect. Tongue-Tite TX Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 3. MDF-Tite MDF Screws are designed to eliminate blistering when installing MDF boards, fibre boards and chipboard flooring. this stops squeek noise and promotes a more solid job. 2) The surface must be clean and free of grit/dirt. Otherwise do as the other blokes say, punch them through or get a proper nail puller. !! Active Member. 99 Inc Vat. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > Ceramic Flooring on chipboard. New Member. - Protective gloves – essential if laying glass mineral wool floor insulation. All of our chipboard is P5 grade, which means it has been treated with a moisture-resistant coating and is load-bearing - perfect for cost-effective chipboard floorboards. £15. Ideal for all types of flooring including softwood, fibreboard and hardwood. Product code: 164516. rogerk101 Screwfix Select. Lay down chipboard flooring. For example, a 2mm Polyfoam Underlay is recommended for a chipboard sub-floor but is barely going to provide any sound deadening and has no. 4. Afterwards, laid down 18mm T&G MR chipboard sheets so had a nice perfectly flat floor, and laid the lvt (spc) on top. Vin, May 16, 2020. For example, room is 4m long exactly (4000mm). #3. After removing it, the studs (32x50mm) were not secured to the rather uneven block and beam floor, nor levelled (im guessing resulting in the uneven and noisy floor previously). 2440x600 chipboard flooring. Order Araldite 2-Part Epoxy Adhesive Tubes Opaque 2 x 15ml at Screwfix. #1. Adjust the fit once the mask is on to keep it snugly and comfortably in place. Buy Multi Purpose Fillers from Screwfix. Had a bad problem when my m/c was in spin mode on the boat, wood floor with empty void underneath realy wasnt helping then tried the washing m/c anti-vibration mat from Toolstation (not sold by our host) and boy what a difference for around £13. Competitor stocks Everbuild 503. We live in a Taylor build Wimpey new build, which makes loud cracking noises in the rooms directly underneath when someone walks around the rooms upstairs. I plan on laying T&G, 22mm, P5 chipboard flooring soon and would like to know what type and size screws should be used. Screw down as you suggested, and as Sinewave has mentioned. My house is less than 30 years old and has chipboard flooring sheets (2400mm x 600mm) throughout on joists. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard flooring. If in delivery zone 1 and onsite mechanical offload is required, please contact us on 0208 362 8100 and we can quote you for this additional service, you must also advise of any width or height restrictions and time restrictions and provide a site mobile number. Our chipboard flooring features a tongue and groove fitting system for easy installation. Dawsy New Member. Requires no pilot hole or pre-drilling. Requires no pilot hole or pre-drilling. If you don't moisture in the loft is likely to condense on the board resulting in damp and mould will follow. theguildmaster New Member. Trying to fix the creaking in upstairs chipboard floor, before new carpet laid on Tuesday. rogerk101, Jan 25, 2023. £. The Ex-Kitchen Fitter New Member. im toying with the idea of laying the tiles directly to the moisture resistant chip board with flexi adhesive. Or. Order Bostik SBR Admixture White 5Ltr at Screwfix. £30. Most likely need to lay timber guide rails tapered from 75mm down to a few mm's, once screed has dried, these can be removed & channels filled in with screed. Click and Collect is available or enjoy free UK delivery on selected orders over £150 excluding VAT. =30mm. Gadge New Member. If its on a riser, then easy to access, if not and judging by your photo it doesnt look like it is, then another option is to cut out a section of the ceiling and access the trap from below. Wickes P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring - 18 x 600 x 2400mm. Delivery. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Dawsy, Nov 18, 2017. More important to leave your. 99 Inc Vat. x 10's then use bal rapidset flexible £25 20kg states. 2x2 would be ok for that area, 4x2 is overkill. I am looking to meet the new extension floor and existing floors by laying 22mm T&G chipboard onto the concrete floor. Had a bit of an emergency and need to replace my floors fast (and cheap). My current ideas are. Home Tags > chipboard. Chippy John New Member. By insulating your loft or roof you'll effectively reduce heat loss. Arrange the boards so that when you get to the end of the run the offcut can be used to start the next run aiming for a staggered joint of at least 300mm. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2Use a string line to check if your floor is sagging in the middle. Quantity. What's the best way to do this? As it's the underside of the floor, it will never be walked on (unless the cat learns to walk upside down) and I'm not looking to spend a fortune doing it. Often used as flooring instead of timber (which is much more expensive). What will I prime the floor with?Screwfix Community Forum. e. I have looked through the forum and some people recommend 2. Another option is to drill a 17mm hole down into the floor, hitting a joist if possible and up into the newel then screw a 19mm length of stud down into the floor then screw the newel down onto it. jackelliott07, Dec 2, 2019. I guess that there is a 'standard', but as we all know, a standard will be a minimum standardThe floor is limited head height, so overboarding isn't a preferred option. There is a lip from the concrete floor to the wooden floor of approximately 10 to 15mm. VAT) Quick view. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to a certain. joints must be staggered and land on joists when laying T & G chipboard flooring lay the first row then cut a piece for the next row so it lands on a different joist then lay a full board then use the offcut from the previous board to finish the row, if your joist are so far out you need a bigger piece you can use your ofcuts in subsequent rows and. Add a new look to your home with our range of engineered wood flooring at Wickes today. Click-Lock. I should have levelled the floor joists when I had the opportunity. Wickes flooring is laid with the label on top (there is some printing showing which way up as well if the label is missing). Replace with ply or chipboard. Chipboard flooring comes most com in 18mm and 22mm so i would sugest that you set a circular saw to 19mm deep from the bottom of the base to the tip of a tooth on the blade and cut the section you want to take up, if the section still feels fixed then re set to 23mm depth and cut it again thus missing all the cables etc. For Interior & Exterior Use. [Please Help] Need to lift chipboard flooring to address pipes knocking Discussion in ' Plumbers' Talk ' started by RipGroove , May 30, 2016 . This should leave the flooring which goes under the wall fairly intact, and the wall supported. Final finish will be vinyl click planks which are meant to be 100% waterproof. You will definitely need to overboard the chipboard as you can't (or shouldn't) tile directly onto it. Google time for you. Use spax 60mm chipboard screws, 3 per joist per board. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by westy,. Add to trolley. View product details. Hi all, I'm flooring out a loft extension where new joists have been fitted to comply with building regs. as mentioned above ,must be caberdeck which has a plastic sheet stuck to it with taped. Buy Wood, Chipboard & Plywood Cutting & Blades at Screwfix. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Tabs, Jan 24, 2021. when laying 18mm tongue and groove chipboard flooring(2400 x 600mm), on the short tongue and groove edges, i know all should be glued but do they need to be supported by a joist too?. 4Ltr (169FE) compare. 5. Set the blade depth to just less than the thickness of the board and slice down the flooring above two adjacent joists just to the inside of the nail line. For Use on SDS Plus or 3- Jaw chuck machines on rotary action. Wickes P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring - 22 x 600 x 2400mm. Offers excellent adhesion to glossy surfaces, including glass. Fill holes and cracks with ease, suitable for many applications. Underfloor Heating. Evolution Wood/Metal/Plastic Circular Saw Blade 185mm x 20mm 20T (31656) (97) compare. Traditionally I'd always thought you should use OSB or plywood for this, but there's a 4 week delay. sharp chisel New Member. 8 or no. The nails I got out with the screwdrivers were. For it to be thermally effective, mineral wool insulation needs to be at the government recommended depth of 270mm. The choice is up to you wether you fix 100mm or 300mm but i know which id do. as a rule i never tile on chipboard. 18mm x 2400mm x 600mm Caberfloor P5 Tongue and Grooved Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring TG4. I have decided to remove the 'chicken-feed' flooring and re-do with solid wood T&G Planks. Designed for sealing around timber, laminates and other flooring applications. #13. Zinc-Plated & Yellow-Passivated. Over board the chipboard with a minimum of 12mm but preferably 15mm WBP plywood, screwed down at 150mm centres. 5m², shop the range by colour or the board thickness required for an authentic look at competitive prices. CGN Screwfix Select. archie1966 New Member. Screwfix Community Forum. Lowvolts,. Perfectly happy with it! I-Man, Oct 6, 2021. com. VAT. fixing ply straight to joists needs a screw 2. Look out for intricate, decorative brackets for domestic projects, or more heavy duty versions for use in warehouses, factories or workshops. Order JG Speedfit JGUFHEDGE Edge Insulation Roll 150mm x 25m at Screwfix. also, is it possible to fit the insulation from underneath?Screwfix Community Forum. I should have levelled the floor joists when I had the opportunity. Water-Based Adhesive. 5m. I wouldn't nail the plywood down. There was a water leak over 5 years ago which has left the chipboard floor bowed by as much as 6mm where the boards join. Inspiration for your home & garden. 69Inc Vat. They are rated C24. Glue joists and the tongues, and use three screws per joist, chipboard full threaded screws. Can I lay ceramic floor tiles directly onto a new chipboard floor or does it need sealing? These are standard 30x30 tiles - what type of adhesive and grout should I use? Thanks. Adaptor & Fixing Pin Connection. Underfloor Heating Mats. Screwfix Community Forum. Applying ply sheeting will add nothing to this floor, that is'nt already there, providing it has been fixed down properly, but it will mean you. Read more. There is a 30% restocking charge on returns. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. 24-Groove Countersunk for a Smooth & Flush Finish. Optimised Thread to Reduce Torque & Prevent Jacking of Timber. If you're up in Scotland they call them dwangs. Includes TX20 bit. David Prentice New Member. You will only stop the squeaks with screws and glue, laying something on top will not work. Hello folks, I’m just about to tile the floor to pretty much the entire ground floor of my house, about 47 square metres. It would be impossible to. just one at the centre of the board will suffice. Suitable for Domestic Use. Use Bal Fastflex (a 2 part elastomeric), did one the other day straight onto a chipboard floating floor with no overlay. Having opted for a timber suspended floor (easier to hide cables etc) I have laid the joists and am about to start fixing T&G chipboard. Look for ones with a valve for easier breathing. Net-Coat Blue-Plated. First board will end on joist so it will connect with the next one on the joist etc. Normally you shouldn’t need to add anything to the chipboard flooring other than screws to stop the squeaking. Putting a new chipboard floor in our Utility. Today I’ve taken up the carpet to have a closer look. the chipboard’s nice and flat, apart from one slight (maybe 3mm) dip along part of one of the joins between t&g panels. #4. Centring Tip Reduces Slip & Wandering. Electric Underfloor Heating. The only reason I can think of for insulating the voids is to reduce noise transmission. com. Over 40,000 products. as jord said this is the correct way and how building control insist it should be done, as it ties the floor joists together adding stability, you would only need expansion on floating floors, if you added another acoustically insulated chipboard floor ontop if the structural chipboard. 16N/m2K or the equivalent of 270mm of mineral wool/quilt insulation (the most common method of insulating a loft). 03-0. PAGE 1 OF 2. com. Remove all the chipboard floor, basically. 18mm Flooring Chipboard 8x2. No problems at all. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that #2 is the case. There are tile adhesives that state they are suitable for chipboard, most likely prime the chipboard with tile primer or SBR first, or just overboard it with a decent 9mm plywood then prime and tile over with a 'regular' adhesive. Doea this sound sensible? Can i fo this without securing the new joyce? I dont think i can screw to the concrete slab because of the DPM. Our CaberDek is fully wa. £12. Drywall screws are the wrong screws to be using for flooring, you want proper full threaded chipboard screws, or Spax flooring screws. 49 Inc Vat. Sometimes easier to rip it up and replace any damaged sheets with new. Prefabricated roofs brought to site on a lorry. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > replacing chipboard floor. 04 mm/m/deg C which equates to 3-4mm across a 5m room with a temperature range of 20 degrees - easy to achieve between winter and summer with the sun on the floor! - MDF is more stable @ around 0. Suitable Application. Hi all After some advice. Currently in Stock. Screws should be left flush or the barest amount under. Celotex etc. Small Head Fixes Flush for an Almost Hidden Finish. Product Type. 3) Build a concrete pad upon which the appliance can sit. 3. I am doing the remedial work myself under insurance. I never would, the integrity of the surface of chipboard is poor compared with most other materials. 5 Boards 1. 2. Mould-Resistant. Suitable for use on interior surfaces and spot priming of exterior surfaces. This would have to be removed as well as the t&g chipboard. You would need to coat it in pva. Product Width. £13. makitamark, Sep 17, 2006. 3 I've always found that it's always better to lift large sections of the stuff rather than pittle about with lifting small sections. Pvc Fitter, Jun 2, 2009. #2. com. electric cables ,water pipes etc are never far away. 60 days free credit available. £40. On top of this, but not directly on a joist is built a stud wall going in the same direction as the joists. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by carly1979, Jun 11, 2008. I need to replace my existing tongue and groove chipboard floor, due to the current one being warped throughout the flat and squeaking due to loose studs underneath. The chipboard floor undulates excessively, in places out by approx 1/2" over 3' along the joists and forms dips between them, also joist to joist is slightly out. mdf is not designed to support loads and if you were to use standard mdf if you had any kind of leak or spill it would puff up. As suggested above, extend the hole in the chipboard. The entire surface of the floor is 17m x 7m so quite large. In my living room I have a concrete floor at the back and a wooden floor at the front.